Tony Long talks with Kgalema Motlanthe, former President and Deputy President of South Africa, about how a prison literacy class first taught him the Earth’s delicate balance, what made South Africa’s Just Energy Transition Partnership possible, and the double standards wealthy nations bring to climate commitments.
They also discuss South Africa’s unequal education system and his foundation’s work bringing digital skills to public school students. He closes with a message for young leaders about caring for the Earth that cares for us.
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